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Old 03-25-2016, 09:27 AM   #21
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Hi Mark,
Well, I'm not as seasoned winter Trailer camper as some, but we just spent a few weeks in the high desert regions south of Tucson, and Congress, AZ. I was born and raised in the high desert region south of Tucson, AZ. The elevations of the 2 camped ares ran at: Arivaca at ~3650 ft; and Congress at ~3000 ft. The days were really nice in the high 70's and 80's, but the nights can really drop in comparison to the days and dropped to the mid 40's to high 30's. We ran the hot water heater (for warm water) and propane heater at night to keep the inside trailer temps in the low 60's. I had a full fresh water tank, but used shore water, elec, and sewer connections.

The way home was much colder with the nights as low as 22 -26 and days in the low 40's. We plugged in electric, but used the trailer sewer and fresh water tank. I was concerned about something freezing, but all went well. We followed the same procedure of running the HW heater (for warm water) and heater at night to keep the inside trailer temp around 60 - 65. And again, no issues. I realize this was not a long test, but a test just the same... Something learned, the trailer needs floor insulation and I would feel better with the water hoses wrapped... maybe by next year...
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Old 03-25-2016, 09:33 AM   #22
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Good thought to run over a set of scales to get the true reading.

I did that with my unit when fully loaded and also with just the TV fully loaded.

One may be surprised at the actual weights.

You probably know some truck stops have scales as do grain elevators...but often charge to weigh a unit. I went to the local landfill and got weighted at no cost.
Hi Eagle,
There is a set of scales here at a landfill, but I need to catch them at the right time.
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John_C, that's great information. I doubt that I would ever camp in temperatures colder than what you described in the high desert (and I can almost guarantee that I would never intentionally camp in temperatures below freezing like you experienced on the way home), so it sounds like it's manageable with some minor preparations and planning. My friends and I occasionally boondock in southern British Columbia and southern Alberta up in Canada when we're fishing in the fall and it's been in the high '30s and low '40s at night so as long as I can manage through that I'm all set.

Thanks again for all the information and advice,

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Speaking of fishing in Canada, has anyone had any problems with the clearance on the fun finder. We go up some forestry trunk and logging roads and run into some pretty big potholes and washouts from time to time. Does anyone have any experience pulling their fun finder over rougher roads?

Sorry if I'm going to the well too often, but everyone's being very helpful,

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John_C, that's great information. I doubt that I would ever camp in temperatures colder than what you described in the high desert (and I can almost guarantee that I would never intentionally camp in temperatures below freezing like you experienced on the way home), so it sounds like it's manageable with some minor preparations and planning. My friends and I occasionally boondock in southern British Columbia and southern Alberta up in Canada when we're fishing in the fall and it's been in the high '30s and low '40s at night so as long as I can manage through that I'm all set.

Thanks again for all the information and advice,

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Hi Mark,
In reviewing my post, I want to make sure one area was not confusing...
The way home was much colder with the nights as low as 22 -26 and days in the low 40's.

22 -26 was meant to be 22 to 26, I only saw one point on the way down that dropped to -1, but we were driving south about an hour north of DeMoines, IA. We continued to drive on and finally pulled into a KOA somewhere near Kansas City. Most of the trip the night temps were in the the 38 to 40 deg F range, but there were a few that dropped as low 22 to 26 for a few hours when we were camped south of Tucson at 3,600 ft. and then 2 nights coming back fell into that range... Flagstaff, AZ at ~7,000 ft. (22) and I think around Oklahoma or Kansas (26)... ... Going down, we went dry and the water lines still contained antifreeze. I flushed the lines and filled the tank when we got to AZ, and then, I drained them again when we got back to MN Monday night.

I just didn't want to confuse anyone...
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Hi all,
The question regarding cold weather camping brought forth a number of responses and I thought the following article Surviving the winter in your RV by Mark S. Nemeth and the associated links would be interesting for those thinking about extending their camping season...

Link: Surviving the winter in your RV
I sometimes have issues attaching a link, so here is the address: http:/www.marxrv.com/skp/survive.htm

There were a couple of the associated links (in the above article) were interesting and some may not apply to us trailer users, and I had trouble getting some to open.

Happy reading and of course, when it gets real cold, you can always go dry, carry water, and use the camps facilities...
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I have a V8 2006 4Runner with a 189FBS. I am OK with how it tows the 189 which is shorter, narrower and a little lighter than the 210. However, if you are like many and want to be able to tow mountains and headwinds at normal speeds, the 4 Runner may not be the ticket for the 210.
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jbfunfinder,

Thanks for that information since it is specific to a tow vehicle with the same specs as mine. It sounds like I would be better/safer to think more along the lines of a 189 without slides so I'll start looking more closely at those models.

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Looks like the 189FBR will be the one that will meet my needs.
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A few minutes ago, I just got back from four nights of camping in the snow -- no hookups -- temperatures in the high twenties every night -- we did not need to do anything to protect against freezing.

But when camping in the teens, we have had to develop a clunky work-around to heat the water tank. I will try to post a link -- I sometimes mess up the link:

The LMIC (Look Mom I'm Camping): Manual fresh water tank heater: just a hose from the hot water faucet to the tank, but it keeps the pipes from freezing

Anyway, if you are interested in very cold weather camping, the system described in that link really works. I doubt it would work below zero.

I am very, very impressed with the insulation built in to our Fun Finder -- thick styrofoam in the walls and ceiling, pink fiberglass underneath. I also added reflectix around the water tank -- not sure it accomplishes anything, but it made me feel like I did something.
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