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Old 03-20-2016, 07:38 PM   #1
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Hi,

I'm going to be retiring in June and am looking at a used Fun Finder X210 (no slides just the standard 210). I was wondering if anyone who owns a 210 would let me know their experiences with it (good and bad) as well as what other models they considered before settling on the 210. I've looked at the Keystone Bullet and the Skyline Koala as well as the 210 but I keep coming back to the 210.

I'll be towing this with a Toyota 4Runner with a 7000 lb rating so I want to keep the fully loaded weight at or below 5000 pounds and then I'll put a weight distribution hitch with anti sway on there. I'm hoping that should be more than enough to safely tow the 210.

Thanks in advance for any and all comments,

Mark
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Old 03-20-2016, 10:59 PM   #2
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Mark --

Do you plan on towing in the mountains at all? The 4Runner may not have a beefy enough transmission for long downhill stretches -- using the trans to slow you down. It also has a fairly short wheelbase.

I don't have any info on the 210, but we sure like our 139!

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Old 03-21-2016, 06:07 AM   #3
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I found this. It may be helpful?
RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Travel Trailers: towing with Toyota 4Runner

Congratulation on leaving the rat race behind!!!
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Hi and welcome!

Ask all the questions you have as there is a wealth in info here.

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Old 03-21-2016, 09:12 AM   #5
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Wow, thanks for all the quick replies! I'm originally from Western Canada so I expect I would be towing through the mountains since those are my old stomping grounds. If you've never been up to Glacier National Park and The Road To The Sun I highly recommend it although I wouldn't tow a trailer on The Road To The Sun! Sorry for the aside there. I have one of the older 4Runners with a V8 and a beefier drivetrain so I'm hoping that by keeping a loaded TT at 5000 pounds I'll be alright. I'd be happy to hear opposing theories though.

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Old 03-23-2016, 10:48 PM   #6
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Hi Mark,
Welcome to the forum and I don't know anything about the Toyota. However, I have a 2008 FF XT190 that has a GVWR of 6,095 lbs. and a max tongue weight of 495 lbs.

My TV is a Chevy 1500 Crew Cab with the Max Tow package... I pull the FF XT190 with a Weight Carrying Hitch and like to tow between 62 and 67 mph.

The TV Max Trailer weight rating is 10,400 lbs. (conventional tongue trailer).
The TV Max tongue weight (Weight Carrying Hitch is 800 lbs) with a Weight Distribution Hitch, Max tongue weight is 1,100 lbs).
The TV has a 6.2 L engine which is plenty.
The TV transmission is a 6-speed auto with a converter lock (Tow Mode) and a Trans oil cooler.
The TV is equipped with 3.73 gears.

I have made 2 long trips across the US with this rig, one in the early fall to Southern AZ - San Diego, CA - up through Nevada - Utah - the Grand Tetons - Yellowstone - SD - ND - back to MN (still in the high 90's in AZ); and just got back from a trip straight to AZ and back (much cooler temps with freezing nights).

When running empty, the trans runs at around 150 - 170 deg. F, but when towing on level ground and normal uphill and light head winds, the trans runs around 170 - 210 deg F. However, when climbing with a medium to heavy head wind, climbing long steep hills, or running long steep downgrades And using the engine for braking (The TV is equipped with a manual gear select for towing) , the trans can climb pretty high... In the early fall run, I saw trans temps of 285 - 300 deg F and because high temps just bother me, I slowed way down to let things cool. I want to install a larger trans oil cooler and need to work with the Dealer as the TV is still under warranty.

In any case, all this info is to hopefully help you weigh out all your options... I hope it all helps in your decision making...
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Back in 90 when we had our 32 ft. Fifth wheel and Ford one ton 7.3 l. diesel dually with a turbo we realized we needed to cool things down when we got into the mountains of Oregon. We ran the heater full blast to dissipate some heat. It worked.
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Thanks John_C, that is excellent information. For
comparison/reference purposes, the V8 4runner has:

The TV Max Trailer weight rating is 7000 lbs. (conventional tongue trailer)
The TV Max tongue weight (Weight Carrying Hitch is 400 lbs) with a
Weight Distribution Hitch, Max tongue weight is 650 lbs).
The TV has a 4.7 L engine.
The TV transmission is a 5-speed auto with a Transmission oil cooler
(which looks pretty small).
The TV is equipped with 3.50 gears.

Out of curiosity, how close do you think you're getting to the the
6100 lb GVWR in the XT190 when you're towing?


The most important thing for me is to be safe, so if I need to drop it
down to a smaller size (and still keep the wife happy), then I'll do
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The Grand Tetons are beautiful aren't they. During the real estate
crash I bought a townhouse in Victor, Idaho which is just on the other
side of the range from Jackson Hole. Hopefully now that I'm retiring I'll actually get to use the place!

Thanks as well Michigantraveler for the tip on cooling down with the heater.

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Bear in mind John was referring to transmission temps that were rising to marginal levels when towing, not engine temps. Trying to dissipate excess heat with the truck cab heater could only potentially lower engine coolant temps. It would have little to no effect on transmission temps.
If I were seeing high trans temps, I would certainly investigate adding a very large transmission cooler.
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According to my husband typically transmission coolers are integrated in the radiator and so lowering engine coolant temperatures will help to lower transmission fluid temperatures. However an external transmission cooler will help ultimately.
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