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Old 04-03-2015, 09:05 AM   #1
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Default Scissor Jacks/stabilizers

My new Shadow Cruiser 195WBS has scissor jacks vs. the single-leg stabilizers we had on our first two campers. We were told not to put any weight on those stabilizers. Never use them to level.

Dealer said that the scissor jacks are much stronger and able to bear some weight and can be used to level.

How much weight can they bear? Do you use them to level your trailer?

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From everything I've ever read on a variety of sources, they're called "stabilzers" for a reason. They are not intended for leveling. Motorhomes can have hydraulic stabilizers but not travel trailers typically. Sorry, no easy shortcuts here ... you should level manually with blocks if required. We used to use a curved ramp which worked very well but it doesn't work on a tandem axle.



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Old 04-03-2015, 10:58 AM   #3
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For sure the stab jack stabilizers should not be used for leveling. There are some scissor jacks available that can be used to level. But I would consult your owners manual (if you have one) or check or the manufacturer's website to be sure your's are rated for that.
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We have the standard BAL non scissor stabilizers on our 2014 WSK. The same kind as our little aframe had. They do not even run down far enough touch the ground on any corner... yes, they are run down as far as they can go.

Anybody else have this problem? Any suggestions on what to use under them?

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It seems several others have posted about this issue on the newer model trailers. I think one person was able to get the dealer to swap them for longer ones. Otherwise you're only option is to use a bunch of blocks, unfortunately.
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Our 2015 214WSD came with the scissor type stabilizers and I usually have to block the rears anyway. Scissor type jacks don't like loads when under full extension (where they become quite narrow).



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When I picked up my XT-276, the dealer said the scissor type corner stabilizers are NOT for leveling and not to use them in that manner. They are not designed to carry a big load as required to level the unit.

Once the unit has been leveled, only then are they to be extended to add stability ~ aka 'stabilize' the unit.
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Well, we made it to the campground just fine. Once i leveled out the camper the front stabilizers hit just fine. I used four inches of blocks for the back ones and that seems just fine, too. I bought the BAL tire clamp chocks that expand between the tires to lock them. With all of these measures i have to say this thing is quite steady and solid feeling. So, a success!

Gonna have to do something about the tough jack, though... slloooowww and a bit noisy.

And one more tidbit. We have extend we d our near perfect record of having rain during our camping trip. Get to see how this camper is during a storm tonight.
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The owners manual says that leveling jacks are not capable of supporting the weight of the camper. I had to get to the last page of the manual to find any mention of the stabilizers.
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The owners manual says that leveling jacks are not capable of supporting the weight of the camper. I had to get to the last page of the manual to find any mention of the stabilizers.
Does the manual state "leveling jacks" or "stabilizer jacks?"

Leveling jacks should/would be capable of leveling.

Stabilizer jacks would 'stabilize' only.....not level.

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Just to be clear here folks... I have never suggested I was trying to level the camper with these... I don't know where all of that came from.

However, even to 'stabilize' the camper, the things need to touch the ground...

Plus, they do seem just a bit flimsy for a larger camper like this. But, that said, they have done fine this weekend, so, case closed on my end.

Going to post some photos to the photo section where photos can be found...
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Just to be clear here folks... I have never suggested I was trying to level the camper with these... I don't know where all of that came from.
All "this" came from the OP's statement that his dealer told him that he could use his stabiizers to level with and his following question whether or not this was true

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Default Stabilizer jacks too short solution

Find a set of stacking aluminum screw type portable jacks.
I made pads for the tops.
Just place them in position under the stabilizers. They add about 10 inches and are compact to store.
These were very common so should be easy ti find.perhaps even new.
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Here is a look at the rear stabilizers...



So with blocks they do ok.
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