Bent axles

shubertus · 07-25-2016, 12:42 PM

Why doesn't the rating for the axles listed on the trailer match the actual rating on the axle itself. I didn't find this until I realized my rear axle is bent.

Kafn8td · 07-25-2016, 01:36 PM

what trailer? What happened?

shubertus · 07-25-2016, 01:47 PM

2011 funfinder xt245 . GAWR on side of trailer is 4260. Axles are 3500 rating. Rear driver side wearing out new tire in less then 100 miles.

Kafn8td · 07-25-2016, 02:15 PM

I've found brochures that have the ratings from 3,885 to 3,945 for the 245 and 4,240 for the 276. LOL
Weights
Axle Weight 3,885 lbs.
Dry Weight 4,650 lbs.
Gross Vehicle Wt Rating (GVWR) 7,765 lbs.
Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC) 3,115 lbs.

I've had my XT276 on the scales a couple of times and even full of water/food/supplies for a week, 2 motorcycles and 3 kayaks I haven't hit 3,000 pounds. The 245 has a higher weight capacity than the 276 because of the lighter weight. They probably both use the same axles and mine says 4,240 also.

Can you align these axles? Are you sure it's bent?

shubertus · 07-25-2016, 02:22 PM

2011 funfinder xt245 . GAWR on side of trailer is 4260. Axles are 3500 rating. Rear driver side wearing out new tire in less then 100 miles.

shubertus · 07-25-2016, 02:28 PM

No doubt in my mind it is bent and not an allignment issue. I dropped it off at repair shop this morning to get it evaluated. Will update when i hear from them. Biggest issue was i was up in colorado mountains when i noticed issue and had to drive 50 miles to get down to repair shop. Ruined spare tire doing that but no other option.

gmw photographics · 07-25-2016, 02:45 PM

what is the GVWR of the trailer ?

Kafn8td · 07-25-2016, 03:07 PM

7,765 according to the brochures.

Eagle · 07-25-2016, 03:16 PM

Here are the specs on my XT-276 and the combined (2) axles weight rating exceed the gross vehicle weight rating by 610 pounds.

Axle Weight 4,240 lbs.
Dry Weight 5,110 lbs.
Gross Vehicle Wt Rating (GVWR) 7,870 lbs.
Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC) 2,760 lbs.
Hitch Weight 870 lbs.

gmw photographics · 07-25-2016, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kafn8td

7,765 according to the brochures.

....and there you go. 3500 pound axles times two is 7000 pounds, plus 765 tongue weight.
This is common in the RV industry. In other words, they, many times install "just adequate" axles for a given GVWR.

It is less common in the horse trailer industry. For instance our Titan bumper pull horse trailer has two, 3500 pound axles, and yet has a GVWR of 7000. So they in effect are over-spec'ing the axles for the allowed gross load.
Same with our Titan gooseneck horse trailer. Two 7000 pound axles would imply at least a 14K GVWR. In fact though, the GVWR is 12,168.

To the op, yes, sounds like you have a bent axle stub. If it were mine, I would roll it over the scales, fully loaded to see what you really have on the axles.

APD · 07-25-2016, 03:43 PM

Never rely on the axle rating from an RV manufacturer! In my experience they are less than truthful and will not hesitate to cut a corner to make an extra dollar.
Our T139 is rated (on the sticker) at 3000# GVW. But the axle, according to Dexter Axles own specifications, is rated at 2200# max. Our "dry weight" is listed at 1960# so in "ready to camp" trim the axle is at or even over it's rating!!
And yes, ours wears the tires and it is bent......
The axle still has the Cruiser RV purchase order number, the date, and order info on it. Someone there actually ordered a 2200# axle for a 3000# trailer (10 at a time per the Purchase Order)!

Kansas newbie · 07-25-2016, 07:24 PM

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Kansas newbie · 07-25-2016, 07:25 PM

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roy · 07-26-2016, 09:42 AM

IMO the 276 does not have enough axle under it when it's loaded with motorcycles or any other motorized vehicle in the back.

3500# axles is just enough to support the hauler much less adding water and vehicles in it. Pretty sure that's why I had a bearing failure in 2015 resulting in a wheel fire. I now will only fill up fresh water tank once at my destination or very close by before arriving to my destination.

I inquired to etrailer about upgrading the axles to 5200# units but they flat told me I couldn't do that due to the frame most likely being undersized as well. I do know people who have upgraded work and play toy hauler axles and a coachmen toy hauler. I guess the Cruiserv is just a paper machete hauler in so many words.

Part of this is my fault for not totally understanding the axle/weight/info in the beginning. If I knew what I know now I would never bought this hauler.

Kafn8td · 07-27-2016, 06:42 AM

Any update Shubertus?

deezel85 · 05-05-2017, 03:29 AM

Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead but I'm almost running into the same issue.. I have the xt-245 and I move DJ and band gear/PA speakers around with it. I do a lot of local gigs, under 25 mile round trips, just into the downtown area and back home. My first big show with all my gear inside I stopped at scale and weighed in at 8200 lbs with the 4 wheels only on the scale.. Thats 1200 over weight.

Decided the only thing I can do is stop carrying my backup gear with me and only carry the essentials, (should save about 500lbs ish this way) and also remove the rear lift bed frame and mattress which I do not really use and save another 250ish pounds.

I do not really care for the frame design on these units unfortunately. My last toy hauler was a 2001 Fleetood Prowler 21ft, one of the orignal toy hauler designs. It had 5000lb axles and all cross beams along with main beams were solid I-beam steel. I changed to this one as that one was at LEAST 12" higher off the ground than this one and the ramp angle was too steep loading equipment in by hand on castor wheels and by hand dollies.

On the FF only the Main north-south beams are this... The east/west ones are just angle iron with welded small round bar cross braces in between. I just bought this unit used and the previous owner had already managed to break 2 of the welds on the cross braces at the front for the water tank supports.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by roy

IMO the 276 does not have enough axle under it when it's loaded with motorcycles or any other motorized vehicle in the back.

3500# axles is just enough to support the hauler much less adding water and vehicles in it. Pretty sure that's why I had a bearing failure in 2015 resulting in a wheel fire. I now will only fill up fresh water tank once at my destination or very close by before arriving to my destination.

I inquired to etrailer about upgrading the axles to 5200# units but they flat told me I couldn't do that due to the frame most likely being undersized as well. I do know people who have upgraded work and play toy hauler axles and a coachmen toy hauler. I guess the Cruiserv is just a paper machete hauler in so many words.

Part of this is my fault for not totally understanding the axle/weight/info in the beginning. If I knew what I know now I would never bought this hauler.

APD · 05-05-2017, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APD

Never rely on the axle rating from an RV manufacturer! In my experience they are less than truthful and will not hesitate to cut a corner to make an extra dollar.
Our T139 is rated (on the sticker) at 3000# GVW. But the axle, according to Dexter Axles own specifications, is rated at 2200# max. Our "dry weight" is listed at 1960# so in "ready to camp" trim the axle is at or even over it's rating!!
And yes, ours wears the tires and it is bent......
The axle still has the Cruiser RV purchase order number, the date, and order info on it. Someone there actually ordered a 2200# axle for a 3000# trailer (10 at a time per the Purchase Order)!

I replaced our axle with a 3500#....with Dexters help. See here:
http://www.funfinderclub.com/forums/...axle-3113.html
It's a crying shame but it's fixed now.