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Old 09-17-2020, 10:48 AM   #1
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Well I installed the Micro Air soft start to my AC. I was very easy to install and works. I can run my AC on my Honda 2200 generator. The AC starts up no problem. Once installed I noticed it allows the fan to start first and run for a few seconds then the compressor kick in.

If you try to run your AC with the Honda 2200 generator and the AC bogs down the generator, try switching on your fan on first for a few seconds and then switch over to AC and see if that works for you.

Wonder if I could have saved me 300 bucks.
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Rest assured that a soft start is not snake oil. The issue is that the compressor is a capacitor run motor and normally there is nothing to limit the initial surge current except for the resistance of the windings in series with the run capacitor. This results in an initial current of 30 Amps or more. The soft start kit (and there are several other brands) circumvent this by employing an electronic circuit that will reliably start the compressor at a much lower current.

For those who have heard of a hard start kit for home and commercial air conditioners, it has the opposite function and provides an even higher initial current to the motor to help it to spin for the first few revolutions and then reverts to a normal capacitor run configuration. Hard starts are definitely not what you would want for RV AC compressors!
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I looked at the soft start gizmo but decided NOT to purchase one.

I always carry my TWO Honda EU2000I gennny w/parallel cables if no elect hookups available or use shore power when available. A few times when traveling stayed in Walmart parking lots ... temps outside were in the 90's so used the two Honda gens and had no problems.
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JimBoFunfindrer, well so far I am happy with it. I haven't been able to use the AC at elevation yet but plan on hopefully getting a chance to give it a try up in Sequoia at the end of the month. I hear all national forest in Cali are closed because of the fires out here so ill keep my fingers crossed. From what I understand you loose 2 percent of generator power for each 1k feet of altitude. I not sure about the technical parts of generators and AC but I tried to run my AC with my Honda 2200 at about 5k feet and the AC would bog the generator down and not start. Hopefully this Micro Air will fix the problem.
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Eagle, two generators would be great, I believe if I was able to camp for extended periods of time I may have went that route. Hopefully this will work for me. However it seems like the older I get the more luxuries I like. I've probably taken my TT out boondocking less than 10 times in the last 4 years. Before that I was a tent camper for many years so even though this 139 is small its a big step up in luxury for me.
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1kotonk ... Understand as before I purchased a camper, always camped in a tent which was the only camping option when traveling via Motorcycle.
However, as time passed these old bones sought better accommodations/comforts when camping and still didn't want to give up the motorcycle so opted for the toy hauler.
And since the two Hondas are smaller & easy to move compared to a large 5,000 or 6,000 unit, went for them plus can also be utilized elsewhere as a pair on single.
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Well I installed the Micro Air soft start to my AC. I was very easy to install and works. I can run my AC on my Honda 2200 generator. The AC starts up no problem. Once installed I noticed it allows the fan to start first and run for a few seconds then the compressor kick in.

If you try to run your AC with the Honda 2200 generator and the AC bogs down the generator, try switching on your fan on first for a few seconds and then switch over to AC and see if that works for you.

Wonder if I could have saved me 300 bucks.
So...ACís work harder at higher elevations and smaller generators have reduced power at higher elevations... so... what elevations have you tested the setup?
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Agnitio, I intended to test it out at Lodge Pole Campground in Sequoya National park. California closed all the parks because of the fires out here.

I haven't been able to test it at elevation yet. I tried to run my AC with my generator at McGill campground near Frazier Park, I believe its around 5k and the AC would kill the generator.

Ill post a report as soon as I can get up to some elevation and test it out.
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