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Old 07-26-2018, 09:24 AM   #41
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Update... The mineral biologic treatment seems to be working great! The temperatures have exceeded one hundred degrees every day, and there is absolutely no odor coming from the tank, even while flushing. YAY!!

I cleaned the tank thoroughly, now my sensors are working again! my husband said I did a better job and now I should do it all the time hahaha

By the way, does anyone know how large the tanks are on a 2008 189fbr? There is supposed to be a label somewhere but I can't find it. I found a part number on the black tank (HT 516 by Performance Plastics) and it doesn't Google to anything. The specs in the brochure that I found online say 18 gallons but that seems kind of small.

Update: I located Performance Plastics in Elkhart Indiana which has been sold to another company and they don't seem to have any information about the old part numbers. They are going to call me back

Thanks for any help!

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I have a copy of the 2009 brochure that lists some of the specs for the years lineup of funfinders. The tank sizes for the 189FBR are: fresh - 25 gal, gray - 32 gal and black - 25 gal. Not sure if 2008 is the same.
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I have a copy of the 2009 brochure that lists some of the specs for the years lineup of funfinders. The tank sizes for the 189FBR are: fresh - 25 gal, gray - 32 gal and black - 25 gal. Not sure if 2008 is the same.
Oddly enough, my brochure that I downloaded from the internet for 2008 says 18 gallons. But I just measured my tank, and it is 46" x 19" x 6"- 8.5" deep. This works out to about 26 gallons. So, I think it is a 25 gallon tank yay! That is much better for our full-time use for two people!

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Old 07-26-2018, 12:28 PM   #44
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I was able to track down the company that bought Performance Plastics, and they took the time to go back through their files and find a tank that fit my measurements. And it's 27 gallons. In case anybody needs to replace their tank which thankfully I don't need to, it's their part #4299 at Elkhary Plastics epi-roto.com but they do not sell direct.
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We had a break in the weather, down to 104 degrees ha! So I got back on the roof. Thought you'd find the photo interesting. This is a picture of the great stuff that I put inside the closet wall coming up through the gap between the roof and the pipe. No wonder my camper stunk LOL

Thought I should check the grey water vent while I was up there. That's the next picture. And you can see that the vent cover is mounted so off-center that it barely covers the hole. However it's not really a problem as it does not obstruct the pipe. Barely.

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Alternative mounting for the turbo vent thing... Too tired to look up the name lol

I took the existing vent cover off and drilled a hole that a 1 1/2" pvc pipe will fit tightly through. Then I cut a piece of 1 1/2" pvc long enough to fit into the new turbo vent and the existing hole in the roof.

I caulked around the existing vent pipe. Inserted the 1 1/2" PVC through the hole I drilled in the old vent cover and caulked it from the underside. Slipped it into the vent hole. Reattached the old vent cover. Topped it off with the turbo vent. Put screws through turbo vent and into the PVC pipe

I meant to put screws through the original cap into the PVC pipe and didn't, so I will probably go back up tomorrow and do that, but I doubt it would be a problem if I forget.

One slight problem is that the pipe is not perpendicular to the roof ... it slants a little bit forward, which causes the turbo vent to tend to swing facing backwards with the opening toward the air conditioner. So if it is an issue, I will have to cut the PVC pipe down and mount the turbo vent a little crooked so that it lines up better with the roof. I will try to keep an eye on it and see if it is a problem.

While I was on the roof I sniffed the vent and there is no odor at all coming out of the black tank after 3 days of full usage in 105-109 degree weather. Yay!

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There is a few photos on this forum someplace ?? of a party that insulated the underside of their camper using the pink styro foam sheets. Not sure if 3/4" thick or ??. IIRC they glued and screwed it on using short screws so not to pierce through the plywood flooring.
I did this with my previous trailer, a Kit Companion. It had a 3/4" plywood floor instead of our 5/8. I used 2" insulation, then glued it on with Liquid Nails and then screwed it on using very carefully selected screws and big washers to increase the head size of the screws. It worked great.

I am going to do the same to this FF trailer one day soon... not sure when.
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I did this with my previous trailer, a Kit Companion. It had a 3/4" plywood floor instead of our 5/8. I used 2" insulation, then glued it on with Liquid Nails and then screwed it on using very carefully selected screws and big washers to increase the head size of the screws. It worked great.

I am going to do the same to this FF trailer one day soon... not sure when.
Could you tell a difference? I have been debating doing this for a long time. I even went so far as to buy these galvanized metal discs.



You can use these instead of washers and they're a whole lot cheaper. They use them on roofs to hold the tar paper down. I figure I'll just bang a hole in it with a nail and then run a screw up through it.

My sister had the suggestion of running Great Stuff along the edges to seal it to the beams and it would probably never come loose

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Could you tell a difference? I have been debating doing this for a long time. I even went so far as to buy these galvanized metal discs.



You can use these instead of washers and they're a whole lot cheaper. They use them on roofs to hold the tar paper down. I figure I'll just bang a hole in it with a nail and then run a screw up through it.

My sister had the suggestion of running Great Stuff along the edges to seal it to the beams and it would probably never come loose

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Yes it made a significant difference..... not in the overall heating and cooling of the trailer but in the way your feet feel as you sit or walk around in the trailer on a cold day. We did a lot of cold and cool weather camping and before the job, our feet would get soooooo cold just walking the few steps to the bathroom. This was our goal in putting in the insulation. I sure there was also a small improvement in heating and cooling but we made no attempt to measure it and did not really notice it.... But the foot comfort was wonderful.

Our FF trailer has the same problem on a cold day.
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