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Old 02-19-2017, 09:49 AM   #11
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Of note: My kid had a 2010 ? Ford oil burner and got rid of it because of the 'clean burn' system that uses DEF fluid. A light would come on saying to run it on the highway to clean out the exhaust system and he would have to run about 30 miles on the highway to do the clean out. That would even happen the day after returning from a 500 mile road trip. I don't know of Chevy has the same system.
We're looking at a Chevy (not Ford) diesel (not oil burner). I know you don't like diesels.
Maybe your son had one of these FORD problems.

6.4L Problems - Diesel Power Magazine

Interesting that a light could say that.
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Hi Mich,
I may be wrong, but I believe that Eagle was referring to a high mileage vehicle rather than manufacturer or diesel/gas... Of course, I may be wrong as I know little about a diesel TV...

BTW, I prefer a full synthetic oil if I can get it started between 20,000 and 40,000 miles... and then there is a frequency process to follow in the beginning... Changing to a full synthetic on a high mileage vehicle can actually lead to oil consumption (Oil Burning) and other problems... But, I love the stuff... Just my opinion, mind you...

Sooo, are you telling us that when you get your new TV, Trailer, Sell the House, and Downsize, you guys are going to visit everyone's area...
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Hi Mich,
I may be wrong, but I believe that Eagle was referring to a high mileage vehicle rather than manufacturer or diesel/gas... Of course, I may be wrong as I know little about a diesel TV...

BTW, I prefer a full synthetic oil if I can get it started between 20,000 and 40,000 miles... and then there is a frequency process to follow in the beginning... Changing to a full synthetic on a high mileage vehicle can actually lead to oil consumption (Oil Burning) and other problems... But, I love the stuff... Just my opinion, mind you...

Sooo, are you telling us that when you get your new TV, Trailer, Sell the House, and Downsize, you guys are going to visit everyone's area...
Eagle didn't mention mileage.
As far as synthetic oil goes, I know some swear by it for their motorcycles. But we won't be spending more than I paid for my first house ($15.000) on a tow vehicle. That definitely rules out anything with under 30,000 miles.
The truck we are looking at was a one owner vehicle. It has a clean Carfax and was obviously well cared for. We aren't afraid of the mileage. And, in fact, I am pleased with it's age because the way the EPA and manufacturers have screwed around with engines in the last 10 years you can have issues with newer vehicles just as easily. Check out the Long Long Honeymoon videos on YouTube re:his beloved Ford Seemore.
We aren't as afraid of miles as most people are. It depends on what you are looking for and how it was used.
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Hi Mich,
I may be wrong, but I believe that Eagle was referring to a high mileage vehicle rather than manufacturer or diesel/gas... Of course, I may be wrong as I know little about a diesel TV...

BTW, I prefer a full synthetic oil if I can get it started between 20,000 and 40,000 miles... and then there is a frequency process to follow in the beginning... Changing to a full synthetic on a high mileage vehicle can actually lead to oil consumption (Oil Burning) and other problems... But, I love the stuff... Just my opinion, mind you...

Sooo, are you telling us that when you get your new TV, Trailer, Sell the House, and Downsize, you guys are going to visit everyone's area...
This is about DEF fluid used on oil burners of late.

Top 10 Facts About Diesel Exhaust Fluid - PickupTrucks.com News

Not sure what engine kids Ford pickup had but he bought it new a few years ago and traded it off (under 40,000 miles) because of the DEF system and went back to a gas motor.

Only mentioned to raise awareness if one wasn't.

UPDATE: From what I've just read, it's used on 2011 and NEWER trucks.
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This is about DEF fluid used on oil burners of late.

Top 10 Facts About Diesel Exhaust Fluid - PickupTrucks.com News

Not sure what engine kids Ford pickup had but he bought it new a few years ago and traded it off (under 40,000 miles) because of the DEF system and went back to a gas motor.

Only mentioned to raise awareness if one wasn't.

UPDATE: From what I've just read, it's used on 2011 and NEWER trucks.
Your article talks about 2008 and later diesel vehicles. We are looking at a 2006 Diesel )not an oil burner). As I mentioned to John, the EPA and Manufacturers have fiddled with new vehicles and screwed them up in many cases. Sorry your son had a bad experience. Maybe he should have saved his money and bought an older truck.
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So the one you are looking, being a 06, was produced before the EPA regs or whatever created use of DEF fluid. I view that as a positive for you!

I am not in any way 'degrading' diesels in pickups by calling them oil burners ~ that is a term used in the "pickup world" to denote diesel vs gas engines.

Actually, my son is very pleased with the new Chevy pickup he acquired when trading in his Ford diesel powered pickup.....but not an all together inexpensive lesson for him.

It's been said: "Experience is an excellent teacher"
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"Diesel fuel is safer than gas. If you crash and leak a puddle under the car; no crispy critter."
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I'll not argue that aspect but thankfully, a fire created by a wreck is not the norm.

I drove a wrecker for some 5-8 years (late 60's - 70's) and never arrived upon a single accident scene with a fire involved...thank God!

I did, however, have to lift a burned pickup in a storage yard that several died in for some GM factory people. They took photos of every inch of the vehicle regarding a lawsuit brought against the mfg. It was all rusted metal ... but the still aroma lingered.
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For all those who have a diesel powered tow vehicle, here is a forum devoted specifically for you:

Why even bother | Diesel Truck Forum - Oilburners.net
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I'll not argue that aspect but thankfully, a fire created by a wreck is not the norm.

I drove a wrecker for some 5-8 years (late 60's - 70's) and never arrived upon a single accident scene with a fire involved...thank God!

I did, however, have to lift a burned pickup in a storage yard that several died in for some GM factory people. They took photos of every inch of the vehicle regarding a lawsuit brought against the mfg. It was all rusted metal ... but the still aroma lingered.
I didn't make that up, someone else said it and I just put it here.
But those of us who have been around a while surely remember the Pinto and the instances of gas tank ruptures when they were hit in the rear.
But I had a Corvair too. I was sad when Nader killed it off.
Yes, the common person has no idea of the horrors that tow truck drivers have to deal with at times. I remember that you said something about camping near lakes makes water smell fishy.
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